What HP could have done with WebOS

HP this last week or so announced that it had made a terrible decision to discontinue producing the Touchpad or other WebOS devices.  It came as a real shock to those of us that have been hoping they would simply fix the problems that WebOS has so that we can come back.  I don’t know about everyone who’s tried the WebOS, but it has by far the most potential of any i’ve seen for mobile applications.

The Good about WebOS

There are a lot of really excellent parts of WebOS.  First, although on day one things can feel a little confusing (the swipe isn’t natural, how to use the cards aren’t obvious, etc) after about 1 or 2 days of real use it starts to become not only natural, but something to be desired.  I moved to my ipod touch from my Palm Pre and keep trying to swipe to switch apps, and getting frustrated because such an awesome feature didn’t exist.  Opening the keyboard and just typing, again is wonderful.  Just type is indeed that, you simply open, type, and you have what you want.  It’s good, it’s very good.  Also, patches.  My biggest frustration with Apples iOS is that it seems to be written to be perfect for exactly 1 person - Steve Jobs.  Lots of fanboys decide that they also like turtle necks, but I don’t, I hate them.  iOS doesn’t work exactly like i’d like it to, but there’s little that can be done without jailbreaking it (which as far as I know doesn’t work on my ipad 2 yet).  WebOS on the other hand embraced the idea of patching the OS.  I can make the battery in the corner work the way I want instead (show as a %), I can make the vibration last exactly the amount of time that I want.  I can remove that stupid NFL app like I have any interest in that sort of thing.  Not by downloading some app, but by changing the OS code to run the way I want.  Very Excellent (though not fully condoned by Palm as far as I know).

The Bad

So with so much going for it, why am I now on android?  There are really 2 main reasons.  The first reason: The battery is absolutely ridiculous.  This is actually the reason I don’t use my Palm Pre any more.  If I completely charge my phone, and don’t use it all day, it’s dead by the next morning.  That’s ridiculous.  If i try and use it during a 3 hour meeting for notes, surfing, etc (not even 100% of the time) it’s dead by the end.  That’s completely unacceptable.  If nothing else is fixed, the battery life simply has to be fixed for WebOS will never make it out of HP’s doors with any form of following.  The second reason: Things are simply too slow to load.  When I tried to show people how cool my phone was, I’d try and open any app, and it sits and blinks for 5-10 seconds while it load.  This is, I imagine, because of the reliance on html and javascript, except webpages don’t take that long.  In web development we learn that if a page takes longer than 500ms to load, it’s not good yet, if it’s more than 2 seconds you just lost a customer.  So why does loading a small website, say a contacts app, take so long?  I can only guess it’s due to poor framework development on Palm’s part.  The framework obviously tries to do too much before the app loads, and this is killing them.  Also, 1 other problem, if you get people to go to a provider (Sprint), don’t switch on them when you come up with a cooler option.  I wanted the Pre 2 because I had hoped you’d fixed things (I later learn the battery was worse, you’re just screwing yourselves) but no, i’m on sprint now and you made some weird contract with Verizon.  Honestly?  It’s like you faked us all out on purpose.  I can just see someone laughing in their office; haha we totally tricked you into going with Sprint (which, btw, is still my favorite provider with their any mobile to mobile minutes, awesome :)) suckers.

The Potential

Assuming that Palm fixes the Load times and most importantly the Battery life, there are still a few things they could do to revive their dying child.

  • Embrace patches.  Get a developer to look over the patch and make sure it’s good, and release it on your own website.  Offer tons of them, that do anything I could want.  Let me install them from the app store, and remember my decisions during an update.  Patches are your friend :) love them, protect them, make them available.  They let me use my phone the way I want, not the way you thought I wanted (or worse the way that your CEO wanted).
  • Offer the touchstone as part of the original phone.  I was disappointed when I heard there was this awesome piece of technology that you guys created, but that was an extra $50 right on top.  Almost as disappointed as I was with the HTC Flyer (which is an entire rant in itself, and has caused me to believe that HTC couldn’t care less about their customers, terrible move).  It’s like selling a car without the tires, or a kids toy batteries sold separately, or a cool phone without an awesome charger (except you taunt us with the possibilities).  It was too much money to spend to simply get the ability to set my phone on a magnet and let it charge.  Honestly $50 did someone eat lead paint chips as a kid?  But the touchstone is awesome, everyone with a Pre (or whatever) should have one that comes with their phone.  Extras can then be $30 if need be, but the original one should come in the packaging.  Then your phone has something none other does, true convenience.
  • Reprogram all the main apps directly in C instead of in JS.  Better yet, work on the framework so that it loads programs faster and cleaner.  The apps shouldn’t be very large, and they should be very fast.  But in the end, the built in main apps should be sooooo fast that I can blame the other developers when their apps aren’t as quick.  As is, of course other apps aren’t fast, the contacts app is slow.  How can I expect some other company to write in your framework if you can’t?  And, how can I expect to be able to develop something someone will truly like if no matter what I do it’s going to be terribly slow?  That’s not a good feeling for your developers.
  • Did I mention fix the battery life?  It really is totally unacceptable
Will HP/Palm hear my rants?  Almost assuredly not (if you know someone from HP please :) feel free to forward it on), but if they somehow do, don’t just by pass them as Ramblings of a Crazy Programmer, hear them as a genuine request from a customer that longs to come back.

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